In this episode of the podcast, Kale and
Rod have a conversation in three parts: Russia and Ukraine, the use
and abuse of Dialogue in Church and culture matters, and Rod's work
on Enchantment.
The first section is a discussion of the
escalation of war rhetoric surrounding Russia and Ukraine, and the
chorus of foreign policy voices seeming to cheerlead another
conflict. It always seems to be Munich for a certain type of D.C.
pundit. Kale presses Rod to discuss his loss of faith in foreign
wars twenty years ago with the Iraq debacle. What are we left with
when narratives collapse? Can we see outside of our own
bubbles?
The second section focuses on dialogue
done in good faith versus dialogue with bad faith actors. Why does
dialogue mask actual and important differences of not just policy,
but arguments over the very basis of reality?
In the third section, Rod discusses his
work in enchantment, his reading of Hartmut Rosa and the idea of
"resonance", and a podcast between Jordan Peterson and Chloé
Valdary.
About the Podcast
A new podcast from The American Conservative, presented by Kale Zelden and bestselling author Rod Dreher, exploring faith, culture, and public affairs.