Rod and Kale are joined by New York
Times columnist (and friend) Ross Douthat to discuss his new
book The Deep Places: A Memoir of Illness &
Recovery. His harrowing account opens up spaces for
rethinking what we think we know, the limitations of
official accounts, and the deep mysteries of the buffered and
porous self.
A new podcast from The American Conservative, presented by Kale Zelden and bestselling author Rod Dreher, exploring faith, culture, and public affairs.